Oh, yeah, I forgot to respond to your TUGA mail about sheepshead. I grew up in Milwaukee, so naturally, I play it. Though I've never heard of a version with clubs as trump; it's always been diamonds, jacks, and queens for me (which is consitent with the games.yahoo.com rules, as well). Except for those two Bavarian guys I played schafskopf with, whose version had the picker calling the suit that would be trump. That was weird, though, presumably, the most authentic version.